Minister Persaud’s resignation II

I reiterate that I believe Minister Ganga Persaud is being made the scapegoat and he is made to fetch more than is his. 
And our disgust must be expressed at the “Journalist” who under the guise of friendship phoned the man’s daughter and had her on radio without letting her know she was on radio.
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    Glendon Greenidge that’s not a journalist but a reporter
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    Gordon Moseley Hold your horses or your goats Yog, The Minister is still to answer a number of questions. At first his resignation was voluntary until the President started to dodge that question then Rohee threw the cat out the bag by indicating that he was indeed asked to resign by the President. As for Mr. Bennschop calling Ganga Persaud’s cell phone, I was listening to that internet radio programme and in fairness Mr Benschop was respectful to the young woman who only identified herself as the daughter as Benschop enquired who was answering the Minister’s phone. She said he was not available and that it was late at night and that was about it. the convo if its the same one you are referring to did not last more than 30 secs.
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Yog,I could have never ‘disguised’ myself as a ‘friend’ cause I don’t even know his family, who his ‘daughter’ is etc. I got a number said to be the minister’s, and did what any reasonably thinking ‘journalist’ would have done in any part of the world where there’s democracy. I could recall when you were ask to resign from GT&T (or resigned) under questionable circumstances, many attempts were made to get in touch with you. But, just like Ganga de Banga you hardly answered. Now, tell me since when you’ve become an expert on how a ‘journalist’ should do his/her job? Or, is it that you’re being a bit too emotional about the entire saga.
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    Dhani Andrew Narine Good point Mark!
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    KI Brian Hardyal · 115 mutual friends
    gentlemen!!! morning!! I think everyone has their own opinion n sources for their facts!! true or not we don’t kno, as the public BUT I do hope the proper persons can get dig deep n get the truth!!! guilty or not only the truth counts
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    Shaun Michael As a Journalist myself, I would say Yog has a point. The society has gone to the dogs where basic ethics and decent, moral public behaviour are concerned. Journalism is riddled with unprofessional activism, as much as government harbours corrupt officials. Journalism is not a cover for sleaze and slander and crass activism.
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    Mohamed Khan · 26 mutual friends
    Put it anyhow,goatman spill the beans
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Shaun Michael, do you even know what it is to be an INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST? All I know about you is that you ‘write’ some sort of column in the SN….so, with that sort of SOFT form writing, I’m not surprised that you would ‘understand’ Yog’s point. When in fact, Yog has no point other than attempting to hoodwink us about Ganga de Banga. Maybe we need to hear why is Ganga being made a scapegoat on a matter that would have attracted the attention of the police in any other part of the world where there’s DEMOCRACY.
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    Sunil J Rasul AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Poor Ganga.
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    Mohamed Khan · 26 mutual friends
    If Banga has been made a scapegoat,he will call more names who are involved in these activities
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    Yog Mahadeo I agree Mr Mohamed Khan this is why in my earlier post I called on him to speak out. The statements of ganga persaud, rohee and pres ramoutar are not reconciling.
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    Mohamed Khan · 26 mutual friends
    These men cannot tell lies to cover up for one another dirty works,it like lunchman they are going against one another for power
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    Shaun Michael Mark, it matters not what you know or don’t know about me. That’s not important. My Journalism credentials are quite well-known, and of course you won’t know that. You play a vital role in the democracy, but don’t call yourself a Journalist. You are a political activist. Do not demean the noble profession of Journalism.
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Yog, in the field of journalism, one simply doesn’t sit back and expect the target to speak out. The proper thing a real investigative journalist would do is go after the story, and not sit and wait for the target to call and tell his story in his own time. Tell me, what was so wrong about calling Ganga’s personal cell phone to solicit a response, whether live or not? @ Shaun, don’t know what you mean by your ‘Journalism credentials’ being ‘well-known.’ Please, you’re not talking to stupid people, so save that for another forum. The little I know about you is that you write some very soft column in the SN. Other than that, I don’t know you as a journalist. In fact, I’ve started my stint at GBC over 20 years ago. But, this is not the issue at hand. And, smart folks understand where this so-called self righteousness is heading.
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    Mohamed Khan · 26 mutual friends
    A political activist can also be a journalist
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    Mark just ask them to read the British papers,Fox News,lets say if Banga was living in NY or England he would a glad to throw him self off of the Brooklyn Bridge or London Bridge those people don’t make joke eg Prefremo,Billo Clinton,NJ mayor,so I don’t know what Yog,and de other bannos talking about.
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    Shaun Michael Mark, I will not argue with you, but I question your role in Journalism in the country if you do not know that it’s my investigative work that resulted in Corbin being called to a Commission of Inquiry for the power barge story. 20 years a go I wasn’t even living in Guyana. Your arrogance to advocate that what you know or don’t know constitutes truth is nothing less than juvenile. Anyhow, i refuse to defend myself against the likes of people who can only stoop to personal attacks. Why I engaged in this gutter talk i have no idea. What I do know is that Yog has a point, and Journalism in Guyana has deteriorated terribly, along with the state of the society.
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    Rajesh Paperchasi Balwansing · 3 mutual friends
    I see not even here you can with hold the belittling of each other…SMH
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Shaun, something extra might have been in your morning coffee….you started with the personal attack, but as usual, crap must be thrown and you expect that I sit like a little punk and expect the likes of you to have your say without a response. Give me a break, bro. As for the other crap in your last comment, I’ll ignore that and have the readers be the judge as to who is being ‘juvenile, arrogant, etc. I’m done with you, have a blessed day, and oh u should find out about what’s the role of a real journalist. Otherwise, you’re gonna keep exposing yourself. Go in peace, Mr. ‘journalist.’
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    Shaun Michael Mark, the nation gotta rise above this habit of generating acrimony, strife and dissent, and move to a place of Mandela-like reconciliation.
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    Ok Shaun did u speak out with the guy that alleged the police bugger him?
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    Shaun Michael Vincent, last week I wrote of it in Stabroek News
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    Shaun Michael and Vincent, your language on an international forum, as is Facebook, leaves much to be desired, and usually I would not respond to lewd language. we must learn to communicate with decorum, decency and competency, with proper vocabulary, especially if we want to gain respect as a Guyanese nation on the world stage
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    Tell me what is the lewd language?
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Shaun, I agree. But, you can’t keep shifting the focus by taking the confo into the gutter in order to beat your chest. Then try to sound all fair and evenhanded by inserting let’s talk about a ‘Mandela like reconciliation.’ But, like I’ve said earlier, people aren’t STUPID not to understand what you’re about. I’d prefer to continue seeking justice and answers in this case, as I’ve done in hundreds of cases in the past. I will not be deterred nor be bullied, nor be defined by the likes of you and others, whose agenda is more about emotionalism and self-righteousness. Just look at your response to Vincent Cornelson, all you did is sit and write some weak article based on third and fourth hand info. The man asked whether you’ve made contact with the baton victim, yet you’re such a proper ‘journalist.’ Like I said peace out!
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    Shaun Michael I am not an activist, Mark. and this cussing out, from my end, is terminated. I will not engage with people who refuse to think and exercise intellectual effort.
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    Leroy Nelson · Friends with Gordon Moseley and 72 others
    Mark, I think Yog’s question was that at the start of the call you did not identify yourself as a journalist….it is a legitimate story, and, you, like every other journalist, newsreader, and, or , story writer, has the right to follow the story…heavens know we need more journalist of that ilk.
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    Murdwaj Singh · Friends with Beni Sankar and 15 others
    Marab born with kaal or he placed dog bobo on his eyes for he sees jumbie all over the place but he did not see the jumbie right in front of him!!! There is a difference between a reporter and a journalist! Anyone can be a reporter but a journalist adheres to the law ethics rules and regulations! !
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    I’m still waiting for him to tell or say what lewd I used?
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    Vedant James We should not jump to conclusions or take sides since the truth is not yet known. That said, we cannot conclude that the former Minister is being made a scapegoat. What if these accusations are true? I remember the mayor of Toronto denying any wrong doing when information about his drug addiction surfaced. The rest is history. For the sake of Mr. Ganga’s family lets hope that none of accusations are true.
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Shaun, hope you’re not saying that your emotional comments were anything close to having some sort of superior intelligence. Hey Leroy Nelson, I got your point bro. But, in calling his ‘personal’ number, I did identify myself. And, as soon as I realized that it was his daughter and not his little child mother, I terminated the conversation. As Gordon Moseley indicated, at no time was I disrespectful to the man’s ‘daughter.’ Assuming that she was indeed his daughter…
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    Sharlene Douce Et Tendre · 6 mutual friends
    Mark, I don’t able with you haaaaaaahaaaahhhh
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    Berkeley Van Bowen · Friends with Joey Cellular Unlocking
    Ganga needs to speak if he feels he is being misrepresented. Otherwise, we accept the info put out there by the PPP
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    Shaun you accuse me of using LEWD language, it is my right to ask you to point out the language that is LEWD.several attempts is made for you to point this out.
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    Kamini Chine Dubraj · 6 mutual friends
    People need common sense.
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    Kriss Ruplal · Friends with Alana Singh and 53 others
    Mark’s argument against shaun seemed more like a personal attack to me rather than a refutation of his argument.(ad hominem fallacy)
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    T-Roy Taylor had a good piece of entertainment reading all the comments .. lol.. life pon de dam eeh? I enjoyed all of it. yall leave Ganga de Banga, he will scream under pressure just now… lol
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    Zawani Hintzen Shaun, I can recall seeing on different occasions persons were charged with the crime “buggery” and it was printed on the front page of several news papers…. Including ur’s….. So wherein lies the decorum ??
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    Lynda Bonnett · 3 mutual friends
    anti-man shaun michael, as a so call journalist, why you do not speak out on all the in justices and corruption of your party…ppp. or are you being paid to slant the truth as you are trying to do….we dont want to read yr crap in sn..go and learn proper journalistic work…who the hell are you to comment on yog comment> are you the ppp fatcat/spokeperson….undercove antiman
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    Ruel Johnson The onus is on Ganga Persaud – as someone who has been feeding off of the taxpayers tit for how many years, and who is still doing so as a member of parliament to do more than issue hollow threats. His reputation in public office is less than stellar, ranging from repeated allegations of sexual impropriety (quelled as always due to the PPP’s penchant for intimidating and paying off victims) and financial misconduct, most notably the law books fiasco. Saying that inquiring into the real reasons behind the firing (not resignation) of Ganga Persaud is making Ganga Persaud a scapegoat, begs the question, a scapegoat for what? And if Persaud is being made a ‘scapegoat’, then why is he silent other than threatening journalists for saying that it is alleged that he raped an underage girl? How about using his public office for personal sexual gain, repeatedly, and taking advantage of young women he has the power to hire or fire? Or doesn’t that count.
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    Colin Woolford · 30 mutual friends
    I am John public. I want information.Journalist by profession or not . I just want to know. Sometimes we criticize our journalism/ reporters and accuse them as being lazy or not being tough enough. When they act, accuse them of breech of ethics. Got to do what you have to do Mark. Thanks for your effort .
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    Berkeley Van Bowen · Friends with Joey Cellular Unlocking
    I agree with Colin Woolford. We may disagree with the uncouth persona of some Journalists but on balance it is in the public’s best interest to have more information than less. Investigative journalism is severely lacking in Guyana due to political intimidation therefore we must celebrate courageous people when they risk liberty and life to bring us the unfiltered news.
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    Berkeley Van Bowen · Friends with Joey Cellular Unlocking
    Someone with a similar name to Mark’s accuser was allegedly removed from the top spot at GT&T for unethical conduct. It would be an irony if it’s the same individual now accusing Mark of being unethical. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, I’d say.
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    Deokie Birbal · 31 mutual friends
    A set of opportunists trying to get back at each other I suppose so there must be scapegoats! Very interesting squabble here – I love this and looking forward to learn more – hats off to the “john-publics”.

Minister Persaud’s resignation II

I reiterate that I believe Minister Ganga Persaud is being made the scapegoat and he is made to fetch more than is his. 
And our disgust must be expressed at the “Journalist” who under the guise of friendship phoned the man’s daughter and had her on radio without letting her know she was on radio.
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    Glendon Greenidge that’s not a journalist but a reporter
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    Gordon Moseley Hold your horses or your goats Yog, The Minister is still to answer a number of questions. At first his resignation was voluntary until the President started to dodge that question then Rohee threw the cat out the bag by indicating that he was indeed asked to resign by the President. As for Mr. Bennschop calling Ganga Persaud’s cell phone, I was listening to that internet radio programme and in fairness Mr Benschop was respectful to the young woman who only identified herself as the daughter as Benschop enquired who was answering the Minister’s phone. She said he was not available and that it was late at night and that was about it. the convo if its the same one you are referring to did not last more than 30 secs.
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Yog,I could have never ‘disguised’ myself as a ‘friend’ cause I don’t even know his family, who his ‘daughter’ is etc. I got a number said to be the minister’s, and did what any reasonably thinking ‘journalist’ would have done in any part of the world where there’s democracy. I could recall when you were ask to resign from GT&T (or resigned) under questionable circumstances, many attempts were made to get in touch with you. But, just like Ganga de Banga you hardly answered. Now, tell me since when you’ve become an expert on how a ‘journalist’ should do his/her job? Or, is it that you’re being a bit too emotional about the entire saga.
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    Dhani Andrew Narine Good point Mark!
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    KI Brian Hardyal · 115 mutual friends
    gentlemen!!! morning!! I think everyone has their own opinion n sources for their facts!! true or not we don’t kno, as the public BUT I do hope the proper persons can get dig deep n get the truth!!! guilty or not only the truth counts
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    Shaun Michael As a Journalist myself, I would say Yog has a point. The society has gone to the dogs where basic ethics and decent, moral public behaviour are concerned. Journalism is riddled with unprofessional activism, as much as government harbours corrupt officials. Journalism is not a cover for sleaze and slander and crass activism.
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    Mohamed Khan · 26 mutual friends
    Put it anyhow,goatman spill the beans
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Shaun Michael, do you even know what it is to be an INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST? All I know about you is that you ‘write’ some sort of column in the SN….so, with that sort of SOFT form writing, I’m not surprised that you would ‘understand’ Yog’s point. When in fact, Yog has no point other than attempting to hoodwink us about Ganga de Banga. Maybe we need to hear why is Ganga being made a scapegoat on a matter that would have attracted the attention of the police in any other part of the world where there’s DEMOCRACY.
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    Sunil J Rasul AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Poor Ganga.
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    Mohamed Khan · 26 mutual friends
    If Banga has been made a scapegoat,he will call more names who are involved in these activities
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    Yog Mahadeo I agree Mr Mohamed Khan this is why in my earlier post I called on him to speak out. The statements of ganga persaud, rohee and pres ramoutar are not reconciling.
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    Mohamed Khan · 26 mutual friends
    These men cannot tell lies to cover up for one another dirty works,it like lunchman they are going against one another for power
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    Shaun Michael Mark, it matters not what you know or don’t know about me. That’s not important. My Journalism credentials are quite well-known, and of course you won’t know that. You play a vital role in the democracy, but don’t call yourself a Journalist. You are a political activist. Do not demean the noble profession of Journalism.
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Yog, in the field of journalism, one simply doesn’t sit back and expect the target to speak out. The proper thing a real investigative journalist would do is go after the story, and not sit and wait for the target to call and tell his story in his own time. Tell me, what was so wrong about calling Ganga’s personal cell phone to solicit a response, whether live or not? @ Shaun, don’t know what you mean by your ‘Journalism credentials’ being ‘well-known.’ Please, you’re not talking to stupid people, so save that for another forum. The little I know about you is that you write some very soft column in the SN. Other than that, I don’t know you as a journalist. In fact, I’ve started my stint at GBC over 20 years ago. But, this is not the issue at hand. And, smart folks understand where this so-called self righteousness is heading.
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    Mohamed Khan · 26 mutual friends
    A political activist can also be a journalist
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    Mark just ask them to read the British papers,Fox News,lets say if Banga was living in NY or England he would a glad to throw him self off of the Brooklyn Bridge or London Bridge those people don’t make joke eg Prefremo,Billo Clinton,NJ mayor,so I don’t know what Yog,and de other bannos talking about.
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    Shaun Michael Mark, I will not argue with you, but I question your role in Journalism in the country if you do not know that it’s my investigative work that resulted in Corbin being called to a Commission of Inquiry for the power barge story. 20 years a go I wasn’t even living in Guyana. Your arrogance to advocate that what you know or don’t know constitutes truth is nothing less than juvenile. Anyhow, i refuse to defend myself against the likes of people who can only stoop to personal attacks. Why I engaged in this gutter talk i have no idea. What I do know is that Yog has a point, and Journalism in Guyana has deteriorated terribly, along with the state of the society.
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    Rajesh Paperchasi Balwansing · 3 mutual friends
    I see not even here you can with hold the belittling of each other…SMH
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Shaun, something extra might have been in your morning coffee….you started with the personal attack, but as usual, crap must be thrown and you expect that I sit like a little punk and expect the likes of you to have your say without a response. Give me a break, bro. As for the other crap in your last comment, I’ll ignore that and have the readers be the judge as to who is being ‘juvenile, arrogant, etc. I’m done with you, have a blessed day, and oh u should find out about what’s the role of a real journalist. Otherwise, you’re gonna keep exposing yourself. Go in peace, Mr. ‘journalist.’
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    Shaun Michael Mark, the nation gotta rise above this habit of generating acrimony, strife and dissent, and move to a place of Mandela-like reconciliation.
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    Ok Shaun did u speak out with the guy that alleged the police bugger him?
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    Shaun Michael Vincent, last week I wrote of it in Stabroek News
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    Shaun Michael and Vincent, your language on an international forum, as is Facebook, leaves much to be desired, and usually I would not respond to lewd language. we must learn to communicate with decorum, decency and competency, with proper vocabulary, especially if we want to gain respect as a Guyanese nation on the world stage
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    Tell me what is the lewd language?
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Shaun, I agree. But, you can’t keep shifting the focus by taking the confo into the gutter in order to beat your chest. Then try to sound all fair and evenhanded by inserting let’s talk about a ‘Mandela like reconciliation.’ But, like I’ve said earlier, people aren’t STUPID not to understand what you’re about. I’d prefer to continue seeking justice and answers in this case, as I’ve done in hundreds of cases in the past. I will not be deterred nor be bullied, nor be defined by the likes of you and others, whose agenda is more about emotionalism and self-righteousness. Just look at your response to Vincent Cornelson, all you did is sit and write some weak article based on third and fourth hand info. The man asked whether you’ve made contact with the baton victim, yet you’re such a proper ‘journalist.’ Like I said peace out!
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    Shaun Michael I am not an activist, Mark. and this cussing out, from my end, is terminated. I will not engage with people who refuse to think and exercise intellectual effort.
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    Leroy Nelson · Friends with Gordon Moseley and 72 others
    Mark, I think Yog’s question was that at the start of the call you did not identify yourself as a journalist….it is a legitimate story, and, you, like every other journalist, newsreader, and, or , story writer, has the right to follow the story…heavens know we need more journalist of that ilk.
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    Murdwaj Singh · Friends with Beni Sankar and 15 others
    Marab born with kaal or he placed dog bobo on his eyes for he sees jumbie all over the place but he did not see the jumbie right in front of him!!! There is a difference between a reporter and a journalist! Anyone can be a reporter but a journalist adheres to the law ethics rules and regulations! !
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    I’m still waiting for him to tell or say what lewd I used?
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    Vedant James We should not jump to conclusions or take sides since the truth is not yet known. That said, we cannot conclude that the former Minister is being made a scapegoat. What if these accusations are true? I remember the mayor of Toronto denying any wrong doing when information about his drug addiction surfaced. The rest is history. For the sake of Mr. Ganga’s family lets hope that none of accusations are true.
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    Mark Anthony Benschop Shaun, hope you’re not saying that your emotional comments were anything close to having some sort of superior intelligence. Hey Leroy Nelson, I got your point bro. But, in calling his ‘personal’ number, I did identify myself. And, as soon as I realized that it was his daughter and not his little child mother, I terminated the conversation. As Gordon Moseley indicated, at no time was I disrespectful to the man’s ‘daughter.’ Assuming that she was indeed his daughter…
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    Sharlene Douce Et Tendre · 6 mutual friends
    Mark, I don’t able with you haaaaaaahaaaahhhh
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    Berkeley Van Bowen · Friends with Joey Cellular Unlocking
    Ganga needs to speak if he feels he is being misrepresented. Otherwise, we accept the info put out there by the PPP
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    Vincent Cornelson · 14 mutual friends
    Shaun you accuse me of using LEWD language, it is my right to ask you to point out the language that is LEWD.several attempts is made for you to point this out.
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    Kamini Chine Dubraj · 6 mutual friends
    People need common sense.
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    Kriss Ruplal · Friends with Alana Singh and 53 others
    Mark’s argument against shaun seemed more like a personal attack to me rather than a refutation of his argument.(ad hominem fallacy)
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    T-Roy Taylor had a good piece of entertainment reading all the comments .. lol.. life pon de dam eeh? I enjoyed all of it. yall leave Ganga de Banga, he will scream under pressure just now… lol
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    Zawani Hintzen Shaun, I can recall seeing on different occasions persons were charged with the crime “buggery” and it was printed on the front page of several news papers…. Including ur’s….. So wherein lies the decorum ??
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    Lynda Bonnett · 3 mutual friends
    anti-man shaun michael, as a so call journalist, why you do not speak out on all the in justices and corruption of your party…ppp. or are you being paid to slant the truth as you are trying to do….we dont want to read yr crap in sn..go and learn proper journalistic work…who the hell are you to comment on yog comment> are you the ppp fatcat/spokeperson….undercove antiman
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    Ruel Johnson The onus is on Ganga Persaud – as someone who has been feeding off of the taxpayers tit for how many years, and who is still doing so as a member of parliament to do more than issue hollow threats. His reputation in public office is less than stellar, ranging from repeated allegations of sexual impropriety (quelled as always due to the PPP’s penchant for intimidating and paying off victims) and financial misconduct, most notably the law books fiasco. Saying that inquiring into the real reasons behind the firing (not resignation) of Ganga Persaud is making Ganga Persaud a scapegoat, begs the question, a scapegoat for what? And if Persaud is being made a ‘scapegoat’, then why is he silent other than threatening journalists for saying that it is alleged that he raped an underage girl? How about using his public office for personal sexual gain, repeatedly, and taking advantage of young women he has the power to hire or fire? Or doesn’t that count.
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    Colin Woolford · 30 mutual friends
    I am John public. I want information.Journalist by profession or not . I just want to know. Sometimes we criticize our journalism/ reporters and accuse them as being lazy or not being tough enough. When they act, accuse them of breech of ethics. Got to do what you have to do Mark. Thanks for your effort .
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    Berkeley Van Bowen · Friends with Joey Cellular Unlocking
    I agree with Colin Woolford. We may disagree with the uncouth persona of some Journalists but on balance it is in the public’s best interest to have more information than less. Investigative journalism is severely lacking in Guyana due to political intimidation therefore we must celebrate courageous people when they risk liberty and life to bring us the unfiltered news.
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    Berkeley Van Bowen · Friends with Joey Cellular Unlocking
    Someone with a similar name to Mark’s accuser was allegedly removed from the top spot at GT&T for unethical conduct. It would be an irony if it’s the same individual now accusing Mark of being unethical. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, I’d say.
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    Deokie Birbal · 31 mutual friends
    A set of opportunists trying to get back at each other I suppose so there must be scapegoats! Very interesting squabble here – I love this and looking forward to learn more – hats off to the “john-publics”.

Anti Money laundering discussions….

Am in full support of Gail Teixeira and Mohabir Anil Nandlall on the matter of inclusion of the press in the Select Committee deliberations. Ruel Johnson I agree with you on this. Carl Greenidge has to appreciate that we are growing aversion to the secrecy. You cannot on one hand ask for full disclosure and on the other hand demand protection from the press.
Keep that line up Mohabir Anil Nandlall.
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Minister Ganga Persaud’s resignation

There has to be more to Minister Ganga Persaud than we are seeing. I believe that enough half-sentences are being released by those in the know – and it is very puzzling. A day ago the president was talking of his past ongoing discussions with the Minister, but today the GS is saying the Minister was fired. 

Two days ago we hear that Minister Ganga Persaud is the only cabinet/PPP mp that supported Local Government Elections, two days later we are hearing about rape and other accusations.

Then, on one hand, he seemed to have been fired as Minister – and on the other hand he is still going to be in the mix, etc.

I don’t know what Minister Ganga Persaud DID or DIDN’T do – what I know is that there are both horrible and good stories circulating about almost every Minister of Government. That’s the way it is. Who is better than the other? There are rumours of rape, bribery, ‘dunceness’, nepotism, theft, abuse of people, abuse of Government property, etc. 

There are people in the PPP and Government who are good at spreading damaging rumours and character assassination. They have tried to malign many many good people and will continue to do so so long as their egos are threatened.

And, in the mix is the seemingly unforgiven court action he took against the Jagdeo-led administration!

I believe there is more to it than meets the eye. Much more! Ultimately Ganga Persaud has to speak out. 

He and others must follow the lead of Ralph Ramkarran and speak out. It is time to let us know their side and to let us have a glimpse of the happenings behind the iron curtain. 

Ganga Persaud, Isahak Bashir and these men should start to speak. If you don’t speak out then you will leave a thousand others to fall into the same trap and become devastated. 

If you are at fault, come out publicly and say so. If you have done those grave wrongs, hand yourself in to the police… but, please, let us save the future generations from these traps.

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Farewell Sheldon Cheddie.

Like others, we are sometimes ashamed to see what a society we have become, where callous and calloused souls can walk up to another soul and take his life without care, qualms or regret.

This is the country we have become. Where hate is expressed willingly and violently and love remains hidden in the tiring bosom of a distressed, depressed and dying Guyana. I am pained that we are not doing more to stop our people from being killed or from becoming killers. 

I knew Sheldon a little, through his Dad, Keith Cheddie. The little bit I knew of Sheldon was that he was a strong, positive person who always looked out for the best for everyone.

Sheldon serves as another check mark, another tag of more than 50 years of failed politics, failed policies and failed leadership – sadly, we may not have even reached bottom as yet.

When will it stop? Who will it be next? You? Me? Him? Her?

Farewell Sheldon. You will be missed.

D-day…today

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Today we will see who will wield the mantle of leadership in one political party as it heads into an internal election. Those people will make their choices amidst much mental pyrotechnics and verbal batons.

Their choices will show the rest of us the difference between an ostrich and a beacon. Which will it be?

Will the machinations to secure votes for a maximum leader propel Guyana backwards into a repeat of the years when Guyana slid into the morass or will the past leaders accept their past tense and build a new breed, build a new age and create a new Guyana as was the vision of its founders?

We will soon know. I will pray. Please pray with me.

Our perspective: The Thomas Carroll Affair by David Casavis.

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A poorly written “book”. With such material Ruel Johnson, among others, would have made a real book. Nevertheless, it put some important information in public place.

Firstly:

We don’t think that we can ever take a deep breath in the US embassy again. It stinks of corruption.

One of the few things The Thomas Carroll Affair achieves is the exposure of a deeply corrupt system that was fostered, ignored and even encouraged by the US Government and its officers. It was only when the Carroll affair started to malign the US Government directly that they decided to act.

For that reason, if nothing else, Guyanese should read the book. Guyanese look up to the Americans and to those who work at the embassies of USA, Canada, UK etc. This book shows how the world is as dark and shadowy behind those embassy walls as they are on the outside.

Do we dare to call on the US Ambassador to assure us that there is no corruption ongoing at the embassy? Please assure us, Sir, that the embassy is free from corruption and that the deserving people are allowed visas.

Yes, as a country we embarrassingly take the blame of offering to bribe your officers – but, like law enforcement, your system should be as clean and professional as you are trying to tell the world to be.

Secondly

Some persons who were involved in the Thomas Carroll Affair are in public office. It is their prerogative to be reformed and to hold any position so long as an employer can accept the risk.

However, it is interesting to note the justification of not having been charged of any crime IN GUYANA. Maybe there is no problem with that. BUT they (and us all) must realize the difference between something that may be legally acceptable but morally wrong. Especially if the persons are in leadership positions – or in positions where they influence people’s behavior OR people’s THINKING.

President Ramotar must assure us that he is satisfied with this. President Ramotar must accept the fact that he is the Chief citizen who is ultimately responsible for people in various positions. Especially those positions of influence. So too, the subject Minister is responsible. The head of an organization is responsible for those below him.

Thirdly

The book gives a stark view of how the USA views Guyana and Guyanese. Unflattering to Guyana; brutal to Indo-Guyanese.

The book achieves another aim, i.e., by drawing together some unrelated things and unsavory characters, it successfully stereotypes Guyanese people. This is the stereotype that we face in Barbados and elsewhere. But even worse, that stereotype is what we face when we visit a police station, a government ministry, a civic office and even the private sector.

Police, Government officials, Private sector persons were all involved and continues to be involved. That is the feeling.

The book also noted that the US Embassy in Guyana as the most tarnished in the world. A most tainted embassy in a most corrupt country – that is the feeling that comes over as you turn the last page.

And, after turning that last page, you put the book down as if it is compost, a poorly written piece about a desperate people who have no other aim than to get to America; with successive Governments having no other aim than to stay in power while empowering the 1% of the people with 99% of the wealth. That is the feeling.

Conclusion

A lot more can be written – and, a lot more will be written. Already there is news of yet another visa scandal. The US ambassador and other officials must be as open and forthright with these matters as we all want our Government to be.

In the meantime, our poor bleeding country – one scandal after the other – followed by one excuse after the other. In almost every scandal, fingers point to Government, police or civil society; public officers; those who want to hold on to – and abuse – positions of influence and leadership.

As a people, we must ask ourselves – will we continue to allow our country to be the laughing stock of the world? Will we continue to run to every country in the world while we leave the richness of Guyana to the hands of a few unscrupulous people?

President Ramotar must come face reality and make his mark in Guyana. He should make his legacy in the cleaning up of Guyana. Let the chips fall where they may; those who are corrupt must go. Time to set up such independent systems and review systems – like the procurement commission, like the integrity commission, like the independent judiciary, etc. As a people, ultimately we look up to the President to do the right thing and make the right decisions. We will continue to do so.

The clean-up campaign must start. Can we do it in our lifetime?

Local Government Elections

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Eternal “fixing” of the rules while the city rots!

The municipalities across Guyana are an aging and decaying evidence of the neglect of a partisan politics across the political parties in Guyana.
His Worship, Hammy Green is probably the longest serving Mayor in Guyana – in office almost as long as the PPP is in office. Any he and his office is a political football.

Why can’t we have local government elections in Guyana? More than 18 years have

passed; many persons were born and grew to adult life WITHOUT having a change in local government – or the administration of the municipalities. And the municipalities, as well as the city of Georgetown, speak loudly in its ludicrous decay.

The stinking, cluttered, flooded city, once known as the Garden City is indeed a legacy of the Government of Guyana.

Even the call for “reformed not deformed” policies by Ramjattan has not been followed by any proactive stance by the AFC or any of the opposition. The APNU’s verbiage is not assuring. The city and towns are crumbling while the political parties twiddle their thumbs.

Well, here is the truth – each of the political parties is hiding behind the call for “reform” BUT they are all unwilling to risk the outcome of a local government poll since that would be an indicator of how the Guyanese electorate is maturing. None of them wants local gov’t elections since that would be a “real” poll!

And while none of the parties want to risk election play, they ploy is hurting us all badly. Isn’t it time to just get the necessary done and have local government elections?

Maybe – just maybe, the usual order of business for parliament must take a break to deal with these important issues that are crucial to Guyana’s development.

Averting or Creating a Disaster – The Seawall Part II

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On May 20, 2013, we wrote “Averting or Creating a Disaster” that assessed the stacks of sand bags (covered with black plastic) on the public road. To-date, the bags remain in place and more black plastic covering was placed along the entire stretch creating a nightmare for drivers at night, especially when the lights are not on.

Today someone from somewhere is constructing an additional 3-ft structure on top of the extant wall. Maybe it is the public works?Seawall June 23, 2013

Now, we do not claim to be engineers but we question the aim and feasibility of this project. By the way,  WAS a feasibility study done?

Not many people realize that the riser part of the sea wall (the vertical part) is HOLLOW. It is really two upright walls with a tie on top (that horizontal tie on top is what we walk on).

Here is what they are now doing:

1) They are constructing an approximate 3’ x 6” wide appendage on top of the current wall.

2) They are stapling that appendage to the current wall by driving spikes into the top (tie) of the current wall.

3) These iron spikes are driven in a straight line, approximately 6 spikes per section.

4) They are also driving spikes at approximate 45 degree angle into other parts.

5) The riser is spiked 4 inches from the inner lip of the wall (on the side of the ocean).

Our observations:

1) If you drive a straight line of spikes into the wall, it will FRACTURE along the line you are creating!

2) The hollow inside of the wall will create a movement when waves hit the wall – which will be exaggerated by the appendage you are putting to one side of the wall.

3) The appendage will create an angle that, when hit by the force of water, will challenge the stress line that is created by the spikes.

Are we averting or creating a disaster?

Conclusion

1) Can the relevant Ministry PLEASE share the feasibility study on the work you are now doing?

2) Please also share the contract details – who won what tender to do the work?

3) Please share your long term sea-defense plan?

Any work done on the old sea-defense structures must fit with a long term sea-defense strategy.

If we see such strategy published – along with the feasibility study on the appendages on top of the seawall, we will put this matter to rest. We invite the engineers to speak up (or inbox us).

And PLEASE, if you did not assess it properly, or if you did not have a feasibility stu

dy done, stop destroying what little we have.

Solution: Get a proper sea defense strategy in place!

RED LIGHT MEANS STOP

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Colleagues and friends, it is NOT cool to run the stop lights. Even if you don’t respect it, you must have respect for others people’s lives. If you want to commit suicide, it’s your choice, though illegal – but don’t murder others!
We can sometimes forgive those driving by and the lights changing on them. But, the blatant disregard for other peoples lives is appalling.

Some of minibus drivers do it, a lot of taxis do it. This morning I even saw a DPL 5-xx do it. To those minibuses and taxis, if case you think you look foolhardy and daring, please be informed that you look foolish and cowardly! To the DPL 5-xx, that is not diplomatic at all – you were seen blatantly undertaking traffic approaching the red light at conversation-tree, then speeding past the red light!!!

To those parents taking their children to school, please think of the influence you are having on your children. You are teaching them to disregard the laws. Don’t build a regretful future for yourselves or them.

Stop before it’s too late. If you care less for your lives or the widowed status of your spouse, do have a heart for the lives of others!

Please.

The dhobhi

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D’u know of the dhobhi,
A poor rich creature
Washing is his feature
Cleaning big boys stash
A-wash wash wash
 
Dhobhi speaks of everyone
As if he is of a mighty clan
But the Almighty watches
While he washes
A-wash wash wash
 
Politics, contracts and he washes
Leaders and Godless ministry
Crown, palaces, empires, stashes
And with a dash of ugly wizardry
A-wash wash wash
 
Poor people are a-sway
By the dhobhi’s lying brays
He descends everyday
Lowly speech a-spew’d trash
A-Wash wash wash
 
Pray for dhobhi, ‘cause his soul even wash’d
But while he’s a-washing all the wash
Printers print, monies flow, big screens flash
BUT innocent hearts suffer ’cause of these
Trash trash trash.
 
Yog – June 2013

Nepotism – It’s all relative!

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Nepotism is described in the Merriam-Webster dictionary as “favoritism (as in appointment to a job) based on kinship”. How many jobs in Guyana are given to the meritorious?

In the private sector, the business owner feels empowered to hire whoever he wants, friend, family, lover or just anyone that meets his/her fancy. However, private businesses are not obliged to follow the same rules of engagement as a public office.

Public offices and jobs are very different. Public office utilizes public funds (our collective contributions) to hire persons to compete and function in jobs that are for public purpose.

Nepotism creates the facility for collusion, theft, cover-up and of course rank corruption.

This is where the challenges arise. Can you identify what scenarios give rise to nepotism? Add more if you like.

Scenario 1: A person with the relevant qualifications enters the job market – and is edged out of the job trough a person who knows someone else or a familial relationship – but, in this case the person getting the job is qualified.

Scenario 2: A person with relevant qualification with a familial connection to someone in office, gets a job. The applicant is as qualified (or more qualified) than the next applicant for the same job.

Scenario 3: A person without relevant qualifications gets a job ahead of a more qualified person just because of their relationship with someone who is influential over the sector or area of work, then that is bad.

Scenario 4: There is no need for the job. Never was a job before, vacancy was never advertised. Job was created and filled because of the influence of someone.

Can you identify which of the above give rise to nepotism?  How many jobs were “created” over the past year? And who holds those jobs?

What about those sons and daughters who do NOT have a family as a Chairman, or an executive, or in high places? What chance do they have? Are they only entitled to a seat on Caribbean Airlines?

These questions are, of course, answerable by everyone, including those who accept favors, grants favors, wish to receive a favor and were never fortunate to be favored.

Let’s do some soul-searching and start identifying the areas that may be affected by nepotism. It is our collective monies, our taxes that are being used; the authorities are accountable to us.

Let’s not be nasty; let’s NOT name names wildly; instead let’s be aware of this problem, another cancer eating away at the fabric of our society.

I repeat, let’s not be angry with those who hold the jobs. It’s the executive who, the “influential” person that is guilty.

Let’s be aware of the problem and start the change today. Put a stop to nepotism.

No more acting – fill the vacancies!

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Consultation and dialogue – these twin forces form an important aspect of political progress. But the Government of Guyana is not able to bring itself to understand its position and, therefore, the need for consultation and dialogue.

I cringe every time I hear GoG say what the opposition can and cannot do. Telling Mr. Granger that he is confined to a “Yes or No” position is, in my view, insulting the man who holds the title of opposition leader, a majority position parliament. Whether GoG likes it or not, there is a majority opposition that has been doing the right things, saying the right things and has been exposing wrong-doing and calling for due processes in place to encourage accountability and fair practice. This has been seen especially in the calls by the AFC for transparency, accountability and lean and mean structures – a model that was once touted by the PPP under Cheddie.

The suggestion by David Granger on the appointments for Chancellor and Chief Justice is a decent suggestion. It is a fresh approach, an out of the box approach for politicians steeped in years of mistrust, nepotism and favoritism. It is welcome. Advertising these jobs has merit and creates a clean process. But, then who are the potential applicants? Surely they must be Guyanese. I am sure there is a very short list of persons who could fill these roles. Can we get such a list and CONSULT and make the appointments?

FACT is, Acting Appointments are very risky. Actors generally perform to script and their decisions can be taken in context of their acting position. We do not want the perception that these persons are acting and will make decisions to keep their acting appointments. They should be way too senior and mature for that. But then so too should be the people in power.

(a Kaieteur News photo)

The President must have continuous dialog with the Opposition, instead of trying to hard-nose political will through because of the statutory obligatory position of the opposition leader on these things. It is a sum-zero game. We went through the years of Jagdeo-Hoyte disagreements/protests to be told that they will create consultation and dialog. So, as a people we demand that you guys meet and talk.

We believe that it is time for the Bar Association to stand up and be counted. The offices of the Chief Justice and Chancellor are too important. Step in, resolve this. Is it too much to hope that the Private Sector Commission can find some guts to also weigh-in?

Let us put this matter to rest and get the proper appointments in place for these important positions.

The energies we spend on Dr. President Jagdeo

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It is disgusting, tiring. Sick and tired of reading or hearing about it! It’s tiring to read in the ‘papers, twitter, FB etc. – things about Bharrat Jagdeo.

Jagdeo did this, he did that, he didn’t do this, he didn’t do that. The energies we are wasting on anti-Jagdeo sentiments are astounding. Move on! Spend some of that energy on proposing not deposing.

Now, I was never a fan of Pres Jagdeo, in fact I feel he’s an ungrateful ol’ chap but, then that’s ok. Fact is, I never asked him for anything and never received anything from him. Yet, he was always professional and courteous to me.

I, like others, feel that he achieved a lot, favored a few, snubbed others, stomped on some people’s toes, exploited opportunities and eliminated weaknesses, bullied, charmed, kept bad and good company, inveigled, outsmarted a lot of people and did good and bad.

But, tell me – doesn’t this paragraph above describe most people you know?

The sad truth is that everyone who continues to bash him wanted some favor, fell out of favor or was snubbed in some way by him. Too much of it is a personality clash instead of productive and constructive criticism.

I have read of any number of deals and accusations of corruption, as I am sure the entire world has. We are told over and over about this or that….but in the meantime, while we spend the time digging at him, we waste time – which we could use to move ONWARDS.

Yes we must identify wrongdoing and wipe out corruption. But in the current way of doing things, we are holding the nation at ransom while we are getting back at one man, the former president. Take the licenses. It is now known worldwide, the licenses granted to a small set of persons. But, time to move on with the process. We get so caught up with the “Persons” that we forget the “process” and it is the process that must be fixed. I will not be judge and jury with what he did or didn’t do, yes, I will continue to speak out on what I find to be wrong, immoral and corrupt. And yes, let’s continue to expose the wrongs and the illegalities, but keep the personal clashes out of it.

There is no easy answer.

What I do know is that yes, we must be vigilant and energetic…but, there is no progress by staying in quicksand.

One cannot help but admire how the US Government can have public hearings on the IRS scandal while CONTINUING WITH THE BUSINESS OF RUNNING THE COUNTRY!

Let’s run this country please. Let’s move on with the processes, get it right and move on!

As the untrue phrase said, while Nero fiddled……

p.s….been asked this before….former presidents are referred to with the title “president”

Happy Anniversary?

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My Guyana, this my beloved
Raped & beaten; Endures, cries,
Caught twix and tween timeless egos
Political gamesmanship, opportunism, power
Decency, leadership, vision, driven asunder

Yellow gold, green gold,
Black gold and white gold
All stolen, lost, destroyed
Diamonds, alum, sand and water
Blood of my parents and theirs, squandered.
My Guyana’s Eldorado is lost. Forever?

Patience, O Beloved
There are still those of us
Yet extant. We dare to care
Not for opportunities or power
But for You, my beloved Guyana

True independence as yet beckons.
For you, our dear land of Guyana,
We will free you from the shackles.
You are yet to become the heaven
The nirvana, the Eldorado, to be
Land of the free.

To my sons and daughters and theirs
I pray that your wishes for “Happy Independence”
Will be true and free.
When “happy Independence”
No longer be a wish
But a reality.

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